A recent poll in the Niagara area shows the Liberals a Very distant 3rd. The P Cs are 1st with the NDP following closely
in 2nd. Lets hope Hudak doesn,t blow it again this election.

fatchuk wrote:

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FYI, here is the latest info going around.

Something to think about as you vote in this next Ontario election .

 

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Damn Chuk! That is fine piece of "Follow the money" Crooked SOBs. I often figure when politicians start acting contrary to the will of the people, or to that

of science, evidence or common sense, that you need to follow the money. usually leads up to something like this. Bet there will be a lot of rich guys in blue ties running around after the current federal government is out, just like there are probably lots of rich guys running around in red ties after the last crop got out.

I'm going back into the garage and play with the car, this is depressing!

 

Thats probably around the time they cut the FIT from .82c to .41c. I would take a field of solar panels over those turbines any day. At least the panels are silent.

Remember the NDP have supported the liberals since the last election so why hand a party with such two faced values the power to complete the destruction of our lives.

 

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"Ontario's defecit is currently 11.7 BILLION dollars and the Liberals want to start an Ontario Pension Plan?? "

 

and thats just current deficit..our actual debt is 275 Billion..yep thats right...and she wants to raise to build a fast train for about 5% of Ontario.. I would bet when the Conservatives actual get to see the real books I would bet we are in for a huge shock .why have they been trying to hide, and ly so much about the gas plant scandal, and the cover up..and we have yet to see what mess we are in from the green energy act and all the contracts they signed on to with wynned-power and Soliar.stuff..We are going to be facing some tough times ahead that we have yet to see..I hope they bury the Liberals so deep that they have to do a colonopsky on Dalton McCrook to find Wynned-power..... I bet anything he is her coach and proably has a blue tooth wired to him before she says anything...Spending another 50 or 100 million will not be better for us ..what the hell will all the peopple who who have bought homes in the last 7 or 8 years gonna do when interest rates go up..and they will..and add that the 40 % increase the Liberals want to add to your hydro bill to pay for the new spending..they put it all on our hydro bill..and hide with words like transmission and delivery..they are all very quiet about how many public servant Positions including hydro and many others that in that $100,000.00 club..Those are the positions Hudak is talking about getting rid of..I was listening the head of the union on T.V. the other night and he stated they need to get rid of the mamagement positions..he said "he has several places where he has 11 emplyees and 8 supervisors on jobs quite often".. We have way to many people on that Sunshine list..they need to go...

Finaly Andrea gets off the pot !!! 

i think this is the root of the problem. They all need to smoke a lot more of it because reality is not serving them well. 

Our local radio station was interviewing our local Liberal candidate and I phoned in a couple of questions.Talked to him directly on air.Question 1 Why don't they do anything about the rot in the various departments--answer OPP investigating Orng helicopters,same with gas plant scandle,OPP investigation on going(which by the way all parties agreed to cancil so all equally guilty on that one).
Question waht about certification bill burried in the budget bill--answer never heard anything about it but would get back to me with an answer(remember this is all live on the air).
Question why is there an air of entitlement and waste pervading the beaurocry---Answer public sector union makes it almost impossible to fire or diciplin anyone.He stated he found workers using gov trucks and time to do moving jobs an other personal stuff. He said when he tried to have them diciplined they and the union turned around and sued him for harrassment. Basicly thy are imune because of the union.
The local Consertive candidate stated there are well paying jobs around because he just had a plumbing job and thought the plumber was going to go on a nice vacation with the money from his bill. This guy is a complete ass if he thinks that guy gets to keep all that money. This candidate doesn't seem to know anything about hydro,ins,tools trucks,taxes, and why should he ,the arrogant bastard went straight from teaching into government.
So I am left with a choice,an arrogant Concertive candidate who doesn't seem to know what the real problems are,or a guy who has done a really good job for our riding and rural areas in general befor being beaten by hollow promises last time. Who is a small businessman(he owns Brighton Speedway)but runs for the Liberals.Or the other two candidates who have said nothing about anything in this area. Jind of sad that best choice out here is a good guy running for a bad party. That option of regestering and declining a ballot looks better all the time . Ed

While reading the local so called newspaper this morning i came across something of interest i didn,t know. I always thought P C meant Progressive Conservative. This election it apparently means Poor Choice.

dualquadpete wrote:

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640 radio here in Ont. was talking to a "pollster" & they are coming up with #'s of Ontarians that don't know Squat about the gas plants, orang, healthcare scandels + the announced budget that will "kill" the prov. haven't got a clue!!! where have they have been??? but appears that a lot of people are clueless on this Lib. Gov. or any other for that matter?????

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 I think you'll find it's the younger generation that have no clue. They have nothing to compare today's conditions to, where we've been around long enough to have lived through the changes. I was never involved in politics when I was younger, and I'm sure most here weren't either. 

sasquatch wrote:

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It's not only the younger ones, there's definetly a bunch of clueless uninformed, and "could'nt care less" older people out there of all ages.

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   I think what it all boils down to is explained in the saying " Bull**** baffles Brains "  Voters  are definately baffled.

The answer is simple enough and America has already perfected it. Smart people don't like to follow . Smart people don't like to be told what to do. Smart people ask questions and when they don't get a reasonable answer dig deeper. The people running the world don't like smart people . The lord is my shepherd I shall not want . 

O K here we go again. 6 o-clock news says P Cs down 4 points and NDP up 4 points. Hudak still spewing crap about the gas plant fiasco. We all know who is responsible and Hudak wants to spend more for another public inquiry. More waste.

http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/ontario/ontario-s-debt/

 

http://www.debtclock.ca/provincial-debtclocks/ontario/ontario-s-debt/

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Hudac showed up in Cobourg the other day at a plastics factory and started ragging on about mismanagment and waste and what should be done to retain manufacturing in Ontario. Ironacly the factory and its jobs he was speaking from was retained by two different Liberal programmes that he is going to axe if elected as cost savings. Are they all braindead don't they do any research befor he opens his mouth. It is increasingly hard for me to justify supporting a party that has its head so far up its own ass that it is just throwing the election away.The Greens or NDP are looking better all the time with there policies of silence and let the others destroy themselves. Ed

sooo   it looks like the old pussy smacker is getting in ?    great  

The 1 to 1 ratio of journeyman to apprentices is not a good thing! Where are all of the journeymen going to go when their bosses start hiring all of these apprentices? Where are all of these apprentices going to go when they become journeymen? I hope all you guys have room at your houses for your kids and their families to come and live with you if the conservatives win the election with a majority!
I don't want the liberals any more than you do, but there is no way that I will vote conservative!

Model A Guy wrote:

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The 1 to 1 ratio of journeyman to apprentices is not a good thing! Where are all of the journeymen going to go when their bosses start hiring all of these apprentices? Where are all of these apprentices going to go when they become journeymen? I hope all you guys have room at your houses for your kids and their families to come and live with you if the conservatives win the election with a majority!
I don't want the liberals any more than you do, but there is no way that I will vote conservative!

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    An apprenticeship program for our unemployed youth is better than what the Feds have been doing. They use the excuse we don,t have enough trained journeymen in Canada to fill the available jobs so they raise immigration quotas to bring in "skilled workers". This is cheaper than actually training Canadian workers.

  I to don,t want to vote conservative because of Hudak and his constant babbling about the gas plants and Liberal waste. WE KNOW Tim . Don,t tell us what your going to do ,, tell us HOW your going to do it. 

  I have a feeling this will be Hudaks last kick at the can.  Lets all do our best to make sure it is.

After all the lying,thieving, crooked abuse that has been heaped on us I just can't believe anybody with a brain would support the  Liberals..One has to be a complete brain dead idiot to Vote Liberal..I remember people feeling the same about Stephen Harper when he was running back years ago..Yes he was not and still is not a rock star when doing public speeches as many of us on here are, many have good ideas but when we get to the podium because of  our looks, hair style or voice people judge us..In hind site Pretty hard to deny that Harper has done a damn good job leading this country through the tough times over the last 8 years but still come across as nerd....But Canadains have been fortunate that we had him..He has the right man for Canada at the right time in History.So I am willing to give The Conservatives a shot..I don't understand what it takes for Ontarians to get pissed off about getting royally raped and our cost of living for energy and living has been pathetically altered for our kids to ever leave home..If I had an employee like the Liberals working for me they would have been fired and thrown in jail for theft ..Some of you who think the Liberals are a good choice are definitely the problem in Ontario and from what I can tell really have no idea of the problems we face in tax increases with a liberal party back in Government..I have a few solar panels and wind turbines I would put in your back yard and on your street..and Oh yeah I will just add them to your taxes so you can pay for them..Oh yah then I am going to spend another 100,000,000,000, to put a high speed train in so 10% of you can ride the train to nowhere and I think I will just stick that on your hydro bill to..I guess people get the government they deserve.God forbid we get a Liberal government again...

I will admit you had me concerned..I just don't understand how many times over the last ten years we have been taken to the cleaners and had the **** kicked out of our earning ability on our take home pay , all the jobs that are running from Ontario because of the Hydro costs, Magna for one, Hienz for another and there are way more than 100,000 jobs lost because of the Liberals green energy act.. and the liberals telling us if re-elected they will continue to drive up the hydro debt and energy costs.....they will continue to chase more jobs out of Ontario..your hydro rates will increase another 40% and they will continue to keep us so far in debt our children will never be able to get a decent paying job in Ontario..I only heard The conservatives say they will eliminate a large number on the sunshine list and mamagement positions....I just see a lot of people who are really getting the facts straight..If they only listen to daily talking heads who put there own spin on what they percieve and fail to think and search out the facts then they are making uninformed decisions and poor choices with out all the facts and mostly basing there position and vote based on somebody elses's opinion..Please vote but make sure you understand the importance of your vote and don't waste it or spend without knowing the truth and the facts ....just sayin..There is a lot at stake this election So look at all the facts and vote wisely.........

Bmw said..

Not yet sure how i'm going to vote, but when I do it will be from a position of knowledge.  

 

FYI.. Randy Pettipiece the Conservative member for Perth Wellington will At Timy's on Saturday morning in St.Marys.. you have any questions you need answered or want to express some issues ..We will be meeting there for a bit and then I will spending the day Volunteering with Randy for what ever they need me to do ..He has been good to this riding, works hard and has always been available to me to answer any questions..He has called me many times in discussions about e-testing, and the College of Trades and other issues of concern to me..Best way to get to know your MP is get out from behind your computer or I-phone and get involved in the process learn the facts first hand insted of what so and so heard from so and so and when so and so told some other so and so he probably added or subtracted what he didn't like or added what he thought he heard some-where from somebody .. really bad way to spend somthing as important as your vote..just because your not interested in the government that does mean the government is not interested in you and your money...and how they will take it and spend it.......

from what I understand it's a pretty big list..lots of nepatism and cronyism..I don't think anybody that actualy has a productive job has anything to be conserned about..I beleive I seen a news clip last week on the news quoting the union President from, I beleive it was from Niagra..(I might be wrong on the location) but he stated the government was top heavy with overpaid management positions..Again he stated " on several job sights where there was  11 union workers on a project and 8 supervisors also on the same jobsite project".. I beleive that is the kind of abuse in top heavy overpaid management the the McGinty/Wynne  government has bloated the public sector over the last 10 years..The liberals have added more than 200,000 thousand jobs to the public sector..It need to cleaned up and at the very least see if there is not a lot of tax dollars savings to gleaned .. We need to get the debt paid or our children will burdened with a massive debt that they will not be able to pay with out some serious hardship..We need to have the courage to make some tough decisions NOW for the future or we will have been irrisponsible stewarts of this province to leave such a mess and massive debt to our children...

The only time I ever got in touch with an MP or MPP, was about the court system here in Ontario. Family court to be more precise, although the court system in it's entirety is a cash grab for lawyers and judges...
The system still needs a lot of work, but... the issue I brought up to the table has been rectified, it took 3-4 years.

Now, I'm not an MP, or employed by the gov't/paid by tax payers to make decisions, so why do I need to do their job for them.
With all the people involved in making decisions, you'd think, they could make a couple good ones, every now and then...

Honestly, it's goes back about 15yrs., I couldn't tell you the MPP's name or what party he represented. Because that makes no difference to me.
Honesty, hard work and dedication is what matters to me...and right now, there's not really a political party out there, I have any confidence with, in representing me.

It's all just a bunch of gibberish! See who can knock the other down with low blows. Grow up! Cut the BS, tell us REALLY what you're going to do...

You can't produce the promises, you're fired! No pay, just like everybody else, you made the laws for...

My .02 = 0, (just 'cause)...

If they turf that many trough eater's, we'll be paying for it for many years to come, due to there contracts.
Believe me, if I had their contracts, I'd want to get fired, and get paid to stay home.