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CAMBRIDGE, ONT

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has any one had any issues with the ontario colleges of trades or ministry reps? who do they answer to and how does one file a complaint?

 



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I have no idea. I been trying for over a year and my MP was useless.
I have absolutely no use for the ontario college of trades.

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CAMBRIDGE, ONT

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ya have had issues with them for the last year and today was just stupid Ive been on the phone all day back and forth between the 2 and neither one will correct there mistakes. now causing delays on advancement of my career progress in 310t truck and coach

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I,m standing there , sweat dripping off my balls and running down my leg . our c o t local rep makes a dumb joke re my last name . I think he thot it would be an ice breaker , and I,m like buddy what you need to do now , is move quickly in any direction , other then towards me . he went out to the office an came back with my boss . I guess that made him feel safer or some thing . But I don,t really like my boss either so . had to listen to 5 minutes of rehearsed propaganda , an I,m like hey man can,t you just check my card an licence an leave me alone ..77.

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They don't really answer to any one. That's the problem. Just another form of government feeding itself.
What problems are you having with them?

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My problem is they made ZERO provisions for those of us who are disabled that still want to maintain their license.
As well as an insane mark up from $$66 per 3 years to $150 Per year
Useless



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im an apprentice in my second year. during my level one school i receive a notice saying they were gonna cancel my apprenticeship if i dident pay my membership fees so i called them explained i had done it 2 months prior. the lady on the phone checked. said ya you sure did ill make sure its delt with right away. i asked her is there anything else i need to do. she said nope i took down her name and that was that. then the end of my level 1 is coming to a finish 2 months later and i get another letter saying they've canceled my apprenticeship because i dident pay. so again i explain i already paid they look it up again say yep you did we will sort it out right away. but now you have to contact your ministry rep and get a new training agreement cuzz my old agreement is void now. so i try getting a hold of my rep it takes 5 months before he gets back to me with a new training agreement i get it all filled out and sent back. i asked if the time my apprenticeship has been canceled for will effect my progress he tells me no everything will remain the same. yesterday im informed by the guys i went to level 1 with there is a level 2 program starting jan 5th and did i get my invite. i dident get a invite so today i called the Ontario colleges of trades to ask why they tell me ive been moved to the end of the list because my new registration date is November and i dont have the time in for level 2 so i explain again all the stuff i said above and tell them there is no way i should have to put my career on hold and postpone progress because of there mistake so i called the education minister or somthing like that. she explains its not on the ministry end and Ontario colleges of trades need to change my number on wait list back to my original registration so i call them 3 times before someone figures out how to do it then i call my rep he tells me that its to late they already gave the last 2 spots away and ill be 4th inline on the wait list even tho id been on the phone talking to them trying to sort it out then informs me its unlikely i will get in this term and will have to wait till jan 2016.

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sorry about the novel of a complaint

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GhostPost wrote:

My problem is they made ZERO provisions for those of us who are disabled that still want to maintain their license.
As well as an insaneark up from $$66 per 3 years to $150
Per year
Useless


          ME TOO,mine hangs on my garage wall. I haven't worked on the bench since 2007.



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the best part is my rep tells me theres no consequences to having to wait. my apprenticeship will continue to carry on without any problems. and that's when i lost it and told him he crazy to think that because now i wont be advancing for another year it will be another year before i see another raise after my level 2 another year before im licensed meaning another year before i make wages as a licensed tech i want to advance through my career as fast as i can without lollygagging. i love this career path i love getting up going to work everyday working on the trucks coming home working on my projects this is the 3rd actual job ive had from working construction to 3 years in the infantry i couldent be happier then were i am now and these guys are making it hell to get anywhere and they dont give a ****

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I'm not sure who they answer to.  My licences were good till Jan of 2015 but in Jan of 14 they wanted $120 even though the ticket said otherwise.   I went and handed my 310S and 310T to my member of parliament and said they could keep them.  The College of Trades is BS.



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Would they be a part of the  (Toronto elected)  Liberals, who are slowly bringing us to Civil war ??  



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Aint our duly elected LIBERAL govt, just wonderful. I mean all of these novel ideas they are coming up with for ways to pay for all of their screw-ups over the last 8 or 9 years. I cant hardly wait to see what gems they come up with in the next budget. The licensing issue is just the beginning.

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51 Styline wrote:

Aint our duly elected LIBERAL govt, just wonderful. I mean all of these novel ideas they are coming up with for ways to pay for all of their screw-ups over the last 8 or 9 years. I cant hardly wait to see what gems they come up with in the next budget. The licensing issue is just the beginning.


 I retired in 2001 , before all this crap started so I was lucky. In 2002 my license was due and they sent me a bill to renew. I sent it back to them and wrote " GET STUFFED" on it.  Havent heard from them since. 



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there must be something that can be done my boss has also had issues with them hes been licensed since the 80s without an issue now that this new system has come in the canceled his license because i dident update to the new system because they never sent him notice to do so it wasent till a surprise visit from the ministry that he even found out it was canceled. he sorted it out as soon as he found out and got his license back but now it only shows hes had it since 2013

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Well another red tape scheme....and whats the recourse?
I feel for the guys out there wearin the work boots gettin dirty and then having this thrown at them with no avenue to try make sense of it all.
I finally caved in last year when asked for almost 3 bills for my 2 tickets i held and worked for 25 yrs ago....screw em
Career change worked in my favor but the young and experienced getting shafted.

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CAMBRIDGE, ONT

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they complain theres not enough people working in the trades but make it hell if you want to. makes no sense at all



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 I did not send any money to them and after 3 notices of failure to pay, they cancelled mine. F F S !



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had no intension of renewing my lic when they jacked it to 120$ a year. told my boss if they want me lics'ed they could pay it, they did. f'n liberal bastards.



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I had 3 licences that I let expire when the rates went up.

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Mike, this seems to fall under the Ombudsman’s jurisdiction, call 1-800-263-1830 or email info@ombudsman.on.ca

Outside of this route....your SOL as this seems to be the only avenue to complain against the OCoT

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I've had 3 calls from "The College" threatening to cancel my Gas Fitters" Lic. & to stop working till this is PAID!!! My Lic. 'expired' at least 8 yrs. ago!!!! Been retired since 08 from teaching Big Rig. drivers, so I guess you could say I've complied & stopped working!!! Not even bothering to call the 'bastards" back to tell them to "Go PI$$ up a ROPE"

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ST GEORGE, ONT

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Pete, the College of Trades has nothing to do with Gas Fitters, that's the TSSA
The TSSA is another special treat we get to enjoy here in Ontario. Another scam that answers to no one.

Mike ,like The Cat said, try the Ombudsman ,other than that you can try your local MPP
The College answers to nobody, isn't that wonderful.

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Alright I'll give it a go

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What a fking mess they made of this eh!!..I was reading through this and got to thinking about my license's..I checked and they cashed my check on Nov 23rd I had sent it in and postdated it to the day it expired ..So I have a receipt and cancelled cheque..Is that it do they not send out a sticker or anything..?? just want a check for $180 bucks every year to renew my license to work..I know they sent me a pile of advertising brochures with their ransom for my renewal ..I sent them a letter back explaining in no uncertain terms that I thought of them, what azzholes they were to be scamming me for money so they could jump in bed with all these other scams they were trying to promote with the junk mail they had inserted in their ransom demand ..Marked my cheque with a magic maker that I was paying this under protest..I also wrote in black magic marker across their photo copied ransom demand letter, that I felt they were just a bunch of Mcwiynty scum suckers to crooked and lazy to hold real jobs or meaningful employment...All I got was a receipt ..Do we not get any sticker or anything for our money ??? just a cancelled cheque and a receipt??? that's it??? What a fking scam and what's worse than us bunch of wimpy sheep for putting up with this bullspit..It is tough to fight a liberal organization that is so big ,so full of chit and corruption and yet they still got elected with a fking majority ??? can anybody explain that to me ???..Guess we got what we deserve..nobody pays any attention at election time.. I am so close to telling them to fk-off..I have the feeling they would like to cancel a couple thousand license's so they can garner more control over us and our constitutional right to earn a honest living without them impeding us ... I just hate to surrender my license to those fking bastards..It is my license, I worked hard for to many years in to many fking **** holes for **** wages, no benefits, no tool compensation from the government, no safety protection, no vacation time, got fked over for most statutory holidays, no overtime pay, no kind help or  support at all from trade Labor reps who mostly came in and sucked up my employer ....The government and most employers all the years I worked in this trade treated apprentices like they were so much garbage..I am not about to surrender this piece of paper to those dipchits without a damn good fight ..I will go out in a blaze of gunfire before I surrender anything to that fking college of trade crooked bunch of scumbags...I would rather die up to my knees in blood for all the skin and injurys, sore hands, bad back before I will walk away and let those scumbags take my license.. Whew!!! now I feel better ..I will make it my apprenticeship to fuk with them for the rest of my days..furious



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there you go chuk......tounge in cheak again

for schitz sake....tell us what you think man!

don't hold back !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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whoah sorry first time posting a pic on here dident mean for it to be that big



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Here ya go Chuck ,she's going to fix everything now LOL


Changes coming to Ontario College of Trades?


TORONTO - Changes may be needed at the Ontario College of Trades, Premier Kathleen Wynne says.

“We need to make sure that the college does what it was set up to do, not that there are unintended consequences that actually prevent people from working who should be allowed to work in particular areas,” Wynne said Monday. “And so that’s why we’re doing a review of the college.”

The college has been a source of controversy since launched by the provincial government to determine which trades should have compulsory certification.

Critics argued it drives up costs for employers, particularly in construction, and bans people from working in certain trades even after decades of on-the-job experience.

The annual $120 fee per tradesperson, up from $60 every three years, also proved unpopular.

Supporters of the college countered that it brings professionalism to the trades, encourages young people to take up these careers, and ensures that work is done by qualified people.

After staunchly defending the college, the Ontario government appointed Tony Dean, the former secretary of cabinet, to look at the trade classification process last month.

The compulsory certification process — which determines if a tradesperson must pass courses and take a test to work in the field — was frozen while the review is underway.

The decision to review the college was supported by several groups including the Ontario Hairstylists Association, the union CLAC and the Council of Ontario Construction Associations (COCA).

“The Ontario College of Trades has proved a divisive issue for construction. A thorough, public review involving stakeholders and with an eye to improving processes will go a long way to earning the confidence of the construction industry,” COCA chair Don Gosen said in a statement Monday.

“The college as an organization is in its infancy. We’re pleased the government recognizes that now is the time to review, reflect and improve.”

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ST GEORGE, ONT

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I didn't renew my licence this year and have been getting the nasty letters
If I decide I need it now ,the fee doubles
25 + years in a trade don't mean shyte anymore
I think I'm going to apply for a job with them, but probably won't qualify because I know too much about trades and not enough about being a hog at the trough.

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encourage young people to work in the trades my @$$ they make it more of a pain then anything i wanna work and i wanna be licensed but now because of paper work screw up on there end its going to take me 2 full years to go from level one to level 2 school. its frustrating just thinking about it

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Call global news trouble shooter...maybe he will get through the BS

Mike, squeeky wheel get the new brake line......so start squakin!

Id call anybody and everybody news...tv...radio....MP...wynns oraface...paper...everybody and embara-ass the crap out the

fiberals....whats it worth to you to do it as opposed to waiting another year

Big loss to you Mike...another year at apprentice rate and lose a year of mechanic rate....about ...oh $40,000

i wouldnt stop until it was rectified retroactive.......

just sayin

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heres a thought...

bring a small claims lawsuit againt the OCoT for the max of $25,000 for lost wages

would cost you $75.00 to file ...and serve them...

they then have 20 days to respond, correct or see you in court

one way or another....they have to respond fast

just thinkin outside the trades......

just sayin some more.........

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CAMBRIDGE, ONT

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See and the guy on the phone told me no big deal about waiting another year no consequences and then I t
Explained to him exactly what you just said about lost wages an he Dident seem to get it or care I guess. He sits in his office apparently doing nothing making a retarded amount of money for doing nothing so why would he care he's got it made

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I just copied and e-mailed then the whole thread and asked them to respond to these grievances..see if I get reply or arrested ...biggrin



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ya my member number is in there too lol not that it matters its all on the public registar wich is also a joke hopfully they dont file a black mark on my registar


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just maybe somebody may have to respond and get it resolved..We should all be sending this to each of our respective members of parliament and demand a response and a follow up in writing..We should not let this happen, what are they doing, how are they working to resolve these grievence's..we need to respond to this kind of abuse from our public servants..They do work for us, we pay their wage and have the right to protest and make our greivience public..these will never be resolved if we only grumble amongst ourselves..We need to push-back..I am old, grumpy, angry, and mad as hell and I am not gonna take it anymore furious..I am looking for a good retirement home ...confuse..Federal or provincial..bleh 



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agreed

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After staunchly defending the college, the Ontario government appointed Tony Dean, the former secretary of cabinet, to look at the trade classification process last month.

 

 

Mike,

See if you can track down this Tony Dean to let him know how the college been treating you.



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CAMBRIDGE, ONT

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will do and its not just the Ontario colleges of trades its the ministry as well it took 5 months to get a hold of my ministry guy to get the paper work sent to to me so i could re register. the Ontario colleges of trades apparently canceled my apprenticeship the first time because they dident have the paper work from my rep in. but yet the excepted the cheque i wrote them anyways for my member ship fee. then Ontario colleges of trades tell me they cant reinstate me till i get a hold of my rep and have him send me the paperwork i have to fill out in order to be a member again. that took 5 months of phone calls and unanswered emails from the rep to finally get the paper. work when i finally got it it was the Ontario colleges of trades that decided not to use my original registration date and gave me a new one which had me over looked and put to the bottom of the list to get back into school. BOTH Ontario colleges of trades AND the ministry screwed this up. by the time ontario colleges of trades had called me back to say they fixed my registration date the ministry had also called me back to tell me the class was full and it was to late.

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Hey Mike, I'm not sure what they are doing, but they must be busy! I renewed my membership almost two months ago, and I am still waiting for my wallet "card". Sure hope no one from the college checks me on my job site, they're gonna get an earful! furious



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My 2 lic expire jan 11 th , and have for the 2nd yr , gotten the over due payment / last notice letters .
I think the best way to pay is thru the bank . ya just get in the trough , have your debit / credit card , the paper work an its done . Goes direct .Plus you get to listen to some nice lady tell you ... Oh yea , we get so many people in that get the letters , before it,s even due ..77.

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CAMBRIDGE, ONT

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Mine was payed before it was do and they still sent me letters saying they were going to cancel my membership. When I had called them to tell them Ihad already pay they realized thier mistake but still did nothing about it and 2 months later canceled my membership anyways

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mike wrote:

Mine was payed before it was do and they still sent me letters saying they were going to cancel my membership. When I had called them to tell them Ihad already pay they realized thier mistake but still did nothing about it and 2 months later canceled my membership anyways


 

You must absolutely kick up a HUGE stink about the way you've been treated here.  THEY made the mistake(s) and you're the one who's going to pay for it, literally ... do NOT let this drop.  If you have the documentation/paperwork to back up your claims, you need to DEMAND answers and an IMMEDIATE solution rather than accept their pathetic "so sorry, just sign up again next year" reply.  As others have stated, call everyone and start making demands ..... do NOT agree to a "we'll get back to you next week", your reply to that should be "No, you'll get back to me TOMORROW" or I move op to the next level.  I completely agree with contacting the media on this too, if a solution isn't found NOW ..... do NOT let this drop, work your way all the way up to the (I am NOT kidding) Premier of Ontario and the Prime Minister after that ..... registered letters, emails, phone calls .... document the cost to you and demand restitution.   

I know my reply sounds more than a little rediculous but this is THEIR mistake and if it isn't rectified NOW, it will definitely be hurting you financially .... absolutely NOT acceptable.

Keep fighting ..... HARD.

 

 



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the Prime Minister

 

This is a provincial agency Set up by the Mcwiynty Government..Nothing to do with The Federal government they can do nothing and would waste your time and frustrate you..And I would spend more time getting on my Member of parliament's azz..That is his job ..He is elected to be your representative and act on your behalf on all provincial matters and issues and agencys..He is the local guy that comes beating on your door looking for your vote..hold his feet the fire and make him earn his pay..document everything..get the name of every person you speak to and date and time..make demands ..make them respond ..swearing or rudeness with them will not get you any results..that only works on message/forum boards to get your frustration out and have a rant..boards work well for that..biggrin I use it frequently works better than antidepressants..or alcohol..smile



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the Prime Minister

 

This is a provincial agency Set up by the Mcwiynty Government..Nothing to do with The Federal government they can do nothing and would waste your time and frustrate you..And I would spend more time getting on my Member of parliament's azz..That is his job ..He is elected to be your representative and act on your behalf on all provincial matters and issues and agencys..He is the local guy that comes beating on your door looking for your vote..hold his feet the fire and make him earn his pay..document everything..get the name of every person you speak to and date and time..make demands ..make them respond ..swearing or rudeness with them will not get you any results..that only works on message/forum boards to get your frustration out and have a rant..boards work well for that..biggrin I use it frequently works better than antidepressants..or alcohol..smile


 

HELL, CALL THE DAMN QUEEN OF ENGLAND IF IT'S GONNA GET SOME CAGES RATTLED AND SOME RESULTS aww

 

Yeah, got a little carried away I guess biggrin

 

Basically I am saying that he should absolutely NOT take no for an answer .... make calls, send letters, send emails, kick in doors till this is resolved.  Do not accept "there is nothing we can do at this point, reapply in a year".



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I just paid mine online after reading this. It instantly updated mine to 2016. Mine is due Jan 20.

They came by my work last Jan to check licenses. Didn't matter if your old cert was till 2015 you had to switch over and pay again.

I don't know why the cost went up so much $20 a year to $135.

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Like others have said, keep phoning , emailing etc and take names
Also log the date and times you made contact
Years ago I had issues with Rogers Cable (long story,won't go into it) ,I contacted the Ombudsman who put me in touch with the CRTC standards council.
Once I found the right person, the matter was solved right away. The top guy from the local Rogers office was in my yard an hour after I talked to the Standards Council begging me to call and cancel my complaint and he solved all my issues immediately.

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Have you gone on Canadian Technician web site re this issue ??
Lotsa guys on there spouting off about how great the cot is , maybe one of those guys has his thumb in the butt of some one who can help you ?? ..77.

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Must be the same guys that saved a bundle when they introduced the hst.  Thanks  for the link 77 . Never found anything about the COT but that has to be the funniest Lot of self serving crap I have read in along time.



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Can you post a link I can't seem to find the topic on there site



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