It's the second last cruise night of the season at this Windsor " Brews and Cues " location and a guy DRIVES in with this awesome machine ..........1400 hp when in race trim , has run in high 7's and is expected to do better next year with some dialing in . This car is flawless inside and out . Enjoy '
With all the legal loop hole we Ontarians have to jump through, I would like to know how the hell the owner is able to have that car on the road legally? I thought any cars now with roll cages and pro street type tires were impossible to insure, let alone the blower sticking out of the hood? If this guy is in fact driving this car on the streets with those tires, it's no wonder we all get caught in the legal net when car owners like this ruin it for the rest of us. Do I agree with the insurance companies, hell no ! But unfortunately we're at their mercy.
If the guy comes out next Monday , I'll have to ask him that .....plate looks a little dinged up so he may have just thrown it on for the cruise . For that matter , a buddy of mine buys an older ( usually 60's ) car from time to time . he has extra plates in his garage with current stickers , so puts one of those on the newly bought car to drive it home . He says his insurance transfers to include the newly bought car for a short period of time . He's never had a problem doing that for about 20 years .
If the guy comes out next Monday , I'll have to ask him that .....plate looks a little dinged up so he may have just thrown it on for the cruise . For that matter , a buddy of mine buys an older ( usually 60's ) car from time to time . he has extra plates in his garage with current stickers , so puts one of those on the newly bought car to drive it home . He says his insurance transfers to include the newly bought car for a short period of time . He's never had a problem doing that for about 20 years .
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Six days to transfer a plate to ur new ride.
They say 72 hours to notice the ins company that ur cruise n a different ride of transfer.
It's actually 14 days...read ur contract.
Then ther's the uninsured motorist act...so regardless ur a$$ is covered.
He's never had a problem doing that for about 20 years .
So what am I missing here. A guy shows up at a cruize with a cool ride and all you can comment on is weather its legal or not. Really . How old are you guys . Next it will be decibel levels for admission. Maybe its time for some of you to turn in your keys. I understand delerships are selling nice safe , quiet , fully legal and insureble rides at employee rates. Gawd this site has changed. No wonder people are falling asleep at your runs. That guys ride is nothing short of awsome. Ed
So what am I missing here. A guy shows up at a cruize with a cool ride and all you can comment on is weather its legal or not. Really . How old are you guys . Next it will be decibel levels for admission. Maybe its time for some of you to turn in your keys. I understand delerships are selling nice safe , quiet , fully legal and insureble rides at employee rates. Gawd this site has changed. No wonder people are falling asleep at your runs. That guys ride is nothing short of awsome. Ed
An eye 4 one am totally with you on the "AWESOME"
So what am I missing here?= Yes you are in deed missing "Key points" = Those are if anyone who chooses to travel in such should know the details as in what is legally written cause at some point they're gonna get "Jacked up by the po-po".
If you're not up too date Then you're in a heap of trouble Scotty!!!!.Next without the knowledge posted most will run too a lawyer an be extorted of even more....
How old are you guys= Old enough to know better as in been around the block many times > How about You...Like come on man,were not children of the province ...
Next it will be decibel levels for admission = better pull all harley's off the roads Huh?= equals lmfao
Gawd this site has changed..= Nothing has changed!!! Just someone came to the table too point out missing points that all should be aware of painful to except or not=facts are facts.
So we educated each other as usual to help one another too continue our lives unfettered/uninhindered as our fore fathers intended for us.
Of course knowing such comes with more responsibility ,Some thing we should have learned in life by now.
No wonder people are falling asleep at your runs.= Too much slavery/servicetude with no rest along with a whole lot of meds [or nagging woman will do that.[sorry ladies]
That guys ride is nothing short of awsome.= yep That's one awesome build to be proud of!!!!
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A guy shows up at a cruize with a cool ride and all you can comment on is weather its legal or not.
Yeah, let's not worry if cars are legal or not ! Who cares ! It will never get to the point where we'll be regulated to the point that they will have road side checks.
While we're at it, let's rip all that pollution crap off of our cars because the stuff just robs horsepower. It will never get to the point where the MOE will be giving us thousands of dollars in fines.
Hey, while we're at it, let's build 7 second race cars with full roll cages and slicks and throw a set of plates on it. No one will ever notice that, especially the insurance companies. They'll never outlaw pro-street cars.
I have another great idea ! Let's build cars as crappy as we can, and use old license plates to cover all the rot holes. That would be cool ! We could also use 45 year old tires for that nostalgia look and grind the sidewalls to have white walls. We'll have a buddy certify these for a 40 ouncer and tell the insurance company they are original cars and register them as antiques. We'll call these rat rods. No one will ever notice !
Of course I'm being sarcastic, but we have enough of a problem trying to keep the old vehicle hobby alive, we don't need people from within trying to kill it . Those of you that don't speak up when you see something affecting our hobby are just as guilty as the guy breaking the law.
Classic cars belong on the streets, race cars belong on the track, and rat rods belong in the junk yard.
Wow , post one picture of a car at a cruise ( this is a rodders site is it not ? ) and you get read the Magna Carta ,.....give us the French version while you're at it .
Yeah, let's not worry if cars are legal or not ! Who cares ! It will never get to the point where we'll be regulated to the point that they will have road side checks.
While we're at it, let's rip all that pollution crap off of our cars because the stuff just robs horsepower. It will never get to the point where the MOE will be giving us thousands of dollars in fines.
Hey, while we're at it, let's build 7 second race cars with full roll cages and slicks and throw a set of plates on it. No one will ever notice that, especially the insurance companies. They'll never outlaw pro-street cars.
I have another great idea ! Let's build cars as crappy as we can, and use old license plates to cover all the rot holes. That would be cool ! We could also use 45 year old tires for that nostalgia look and grind the sidewalls to have white walls. We'll have a buddy certify these for a 40 ouncer and tell the insurance company they are original cars and register them as antiques. We'll call these rat rods. No one will ever notice !
Of course I'm being sarcastic, but we have enough of a problem trying to keep the old vehicle hobby alive, we don't need people from within trying to kill it . Those of you that don't speak up when you see something affecting our hobby are just as guilty as the guy breaking the law.
Classic cars belong on the streets, race cars belong on the track, and rat rods belong in the junk yard.
Your picking on hot-rodders much like daulquadpete picks on unions.
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Wow , post one picture of a car at a cruise ( this is a rodders site is it not ? ) and you get read the Magna Carta ,.....give us the French version while you're at it .
Ouais, ne nous inquiétons pas si les voitures sont légales ou pas! On s'en fout ! Il ne sera jamais arriver au point où nous allons être réglementés au point qu'ils auront checks.wink côté de la route
Pendant que nous y sommes, nous allons déchirer tout ce que la pollution de la merde hors de nos voitures parce que les choses vole juste chevaux. Il ne sera jamais au point où le MEO sera de nous donner des milliers de dollars en fines.wink
Hey, pendant que nous y sommes, nous allons construire 7 secondes voitures de course avec des cages et des nappes de rouleau plein et jeter un ensemble de plaques sur elle. Personne ne sera jamais remarqué que, en particulier les compagnies d'assurance. Ils ne seront jamais hors la loi les voitures pro-rue. clin d'œil
J'ai une autre idée géniale! Construisons voitures aussi minable que nous pouvons, et utiliser de vieilles plaques d'immatriculation pour couvrir tous les trous de pourriture. Ce serait cool ! Nous pourrions aussi utiliser de vieux pneus de 45 ans pour que la nostalgie look et broyer les parois latérales pour avoir des murs blancs. Nous aurons un copain certifier ces pour un 40 ouncer et dire à la compagnie d'assurance qu'ils sont des voitures originales et les enregistrer comme des antiquités. Nous appellerons ces tiges de rat. Personne ne sera jamais remarqué! Clin d'oeil
Bien sûr, je suis sarcastique, mais nous avons assez d'un problème en essayant de garder l'ancien passe-temps de véhicule en vie, nous ne devons pas les gens de l'intérieur en essayant de le tuer. Ceux d'entre vous qui ne parle pas quand vous voyez quelque chose qui affecte notre passe-temps sont aussi coupables que le gars enfreindre la loi.
Les voitures classiques appartiennent dans les rues, les voitures de course appartiennent sur la piste, et les tiges de rat appartiennent dans la cour d'ordure.
If you guys really want to pick on the absolute worst problem involving vehicles/drivers/rods/ rodders etc ......give it your all about distracted driving . For real . It has surpassed drunk driving as the major problem for causing accidents and deaths .
Improper modified vehicles ??? onesies and twosies ......distracted driving ?? hundreds . You can look it up . It will get worse , much worse for this simple reason :
I'm retired ,so sit on my porch ,from time to time , smoking my pipe with a nice cold drink and watch the kids go by on the sidewalk that runs down our street in a typical middle of the road suburb . Kids go by walking , riding bikes , skateboards , roller blades , scooters , walking the dog etc etc . I would guess 90% are texting . Guess what they will be doing in a few short years ? Can you say driving ? I knew you could . Kids drive right now with texting devices on the console beside them . They have to chat constantly and we can only guess the consequences of this .Single vehicle accidents are reported in our local paper but reasons are rarely given .Same with multiple vehicle accidents . We can't expect the police to solve the problem . Phones will have to be made somehow , someway so that they can't be used while driving . Period , end of story .
Over this past long weekend , in Ontario , it was reported that the police gave out 800 distracted driving tickets . If that had been 800 cars with wheels too wide , or loud exhaust , or peeling tires , there would be hell to pay . There would be an outcry to ban all rods forever . But it's not that , it's distracted drivers and everyone will carry on .
If you guys really want to pick on the absolute worst problem involving vehicles/drivers/rods/ rodders etc ......give it your all about distracted driving . For real . It has surpassed drunk driving as the major problem for causing accidents and deaths .
Yeah, I totally agree. Makes you wonder how high the fines have to get and how many demerit points one will have to accumulate before people get the point. To be honest, it's going to be like drinking and driving, some will continue to do it even if they had the death penalty for it. Funny thing is that it's a problem with all ages and not just with the 20 year olds.
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Yeah , 350 sb in that one ........talked to him last night about both cars .....they are insured and have been for some time . My guess is they were insured before all the big mods came in because , as he said , getting insurance these days on a car with roll cage and blower would be next to impossible .
That's the problem nowadays. Regular car insurance won't touch anything with the slightest modification, so you're stuck with specialty insurance that has way too many restrictions.Even the specialty insurance wont touch certain cars like the one above which forces it's owners to lie about what they really have. I bet 80% of the modified car owners running around out there are not totally disclosing the fact to their insurers which puts them at risk of having their policy null and void should anything ever happen.IMO, I wouldn't be posting pictures of friend's cars, or your own with the license plate showing especially in an open forum like this one with the world to see.Ya never know who's looking.
Good point , but the guy is a new aquaintance who talks freely about the situation . I'm sure he knows the risks if he should get into a bender .....he probably has over 100K sitting there , my guess . I'm sure all this stuff will be sanctioned and restricted to the point where everyone drives the same boring crap ....just won't be in my lifetime thank GOD . When I'm gone they can do what they want and I won't know about it . I'm grateful I came through the 60's when the golden car era was around .....virtually all makes had a performance car available , even American Motors . Those days are gone and they won't be back .
Driverless cars ? Take me out to the pasture and shoot me !!
I'm sure all this stuff will be sanctioned and restricted to the point where everyone drives the same boring crap ....just won't be in my lifetime thank GOD .
It already is, in Ontario anyway ! We don't realize how controlled we are in this province until you talk to other car enthusiasts, especially ones from the US. They have rules there too, but not to the extent that we have to deal with. Unfortunately, they have a whole lot of other non car related problems ! LOL
Really cool Nova! As a gearhead from the states I can feel your pain on the laws you guys have to deal with! I came from a little state that didn't really mess with us too much...however there are some ..shall we say..more stringent states on car building..as a recent transplant to Illinois I can see a lot of different rules here. One of the worse is the insane law that states you must have a current registration on EVERY car in your garage! WTH??? So to me that kinda puts a damper on building one! Everyone just needs to constantly fight and contact those so called elected officials to keep our best interests..
......" every car in the garage " , requires current registration !? So I guess all the folks on American Pickers , with garages full of partial cars and trucks are breaking the law ? Sometimes you have to wonder what legislators were thinking .
It's a illinois law at present, but not everywhere fortunately!! I'm not sure most lawmakers are thinking with their head...pretty sure they're thinking with the body part they sit on!
It's a illinois law at present, but not everywhere fortunately!! I'm not sure most lawmakers are thinking with their head...pretty sure they're thinking with the body part they sit on!
It just sounds like another stupid law designed to create revenue. Not sure how they could ever enforce this. Regardless, you're still on the better side of the border if you're a gearhead.
......" every car in the garage " , requires current registration !? So I guess all the folks on American Pickers , with garages full of partial cars and trucks are breaking the law ? Sometimes you have to wonder what legislators were thinking .
Ok guys they are trying to make more bonds to increase the net worth of each state hence bonded titles....
As registration means to consent to give away an no one is obliged to register anything...
Once registered before plates validated the registered piece must meet certain term's hence safety check an appraisal the said appraisal back's up the bond...
Then the insurance Is upon said new bond,For if anything happens they don't want to pay you from their profits made by you're property...
So when sh!t happens they pay you out of yet another invested bond[stock markets] through you're payments of alleged insurance bond...
An then the whole process starts over .....
-Now add the net worth of all titles of all 10 provinces,Then you come up with the net worth of the bonds for auto's for the corporation of canada,Which are then floated across international markets.
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This post is everything wrong with this page. A kick ass car followed by a bunch of couch dwelling Internet heroes. Why is it your problem if he can get insurance? Enjoy your own rides if any of you whiners actually have one .
This post is everything wrong with this page. A kick ass car followed by a bunch of couch dwelling Internet heroes. Why is it your problem if he can get insurance? Enjoy your own rides if any of you whiners actually have one .
It's not my problem, it's all of our problem, and if we talk about it then maybe we'll all be aware of the problems facing our hobby. Most of the car owners here have no idea the mess they'll be in when the $hit hits the fan and they are in an accident or get pulled over for a road side check. The a$$ we save might be yours.
This post is everything wrong with this page. A kick ass car followed by a bunch of couch dwelling Internet heroes. Why is it your problem if he can get insurance? Enjoy your own rides if any of you whiners actually have one .
It's not my problem, it's all of our problem, and if we talk about it then maybe we'll all be aware of the problems facing our hobby. Most of the car owners here have no idea the mess they'll be in when the $hit hits the fan and they are in an accident or get pulled over for a road side check. The a$$ we save might be yours.
it can be quite frustrating - I had my Merc inured with a company and no issues - as it was known to be heavily modified and I paid the increased premium accordingly.
So I am at a car show where a guy is trying to get my insurance business and says he can cut my rate substantially - just need the info to get a quote.
Turns out the company he was pricing was the very same company I am already with.
Now here is the kicker - he came back with unable to insure as the truck was "TOO" modified to insure.
I turned about face and got out of there without telling him I was already insured with his company - so I didn't accidently get cancelled - cuz as you all know - once cancelled - forever cancelled.
Lesson learned - not all insurance people are *******s, and some are - even within the same company.
My biggest issue is that we can't use our cars anymore as intended. If you wanted to use an old car as a daily driver, you will have to lie because specialty insurance won't allow it and regular insurance won't cover them. We're screwed either way. I find it kinda funny that Bluechev is the one whining that we're talking about this, but if his "hot rod" is that pickup in his avatar, he especially should be the one that should take note about what's happening around him especially with that truck. He has everything going against him because that vehicle is the number one target for the MOE and MTO (Corvettes are second).
once watched a 74 corvette [in about 76-77]with two women in it doing a high rate of speed lose control an hit a cement hydro pole .
The frame stopped the body did not between the engine an the pole it split the car down the middle..
Now if anyone knows corvettes they have to cables from the factory which are looped through the frame brackets an attached to the seat belts..
Also that these cars often become very rusty which not much holding them together....
With thatsaid it knocked out the hydro for blocks...
When the police got there they laid a blanket over the car an told the kids that were there too move along...
an for good reason!!!!
both women did not make it.
So ya corvettes make a good target...
'with this comment: If you wanted to use an old car as a daily driver, you will have to lie because specialty insurance won't allow it and regular insurance won't cover them. We're screwed either way
Yeah no we're not screwed ...look on ur policy it will state uninsured motorist act...you all pay a Premium for such,which means when in court room charged for no insurance...Ur ass is covered .
As far as the his ole blue chevy...yep they certainly do watch out for them...
sounds like some of you need a different insurance company
Echelon has no driving restrictions save and except parking in box store parking lots and driving to work. What this means to you - you do not need to be going to a show, or some such as an excuse to be out driving around. You do have to tell them how many kilometers you plan to drive each year and you pay accordingly. For an average of 5k km per year I am paying just around $580 per year ( appraised payout value of $55k) - a pittance for the privelage of being able to drive just about anywhere and anytime I choose to. Try as I might this year I did not quite hit the 5k I told Echelon I might drive, and I did take it out as often as possible.
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I agree on the shopping around . I've been driving 55 years without an accident and every once in a while my current insurance company sends me a renewal with a jacked up rate . We have a very brief discussion where I do most of the talking to remind them that if they want to lose a driver who has never made a claim ....last ticket was in 1997 in the U.S .......go right ahead . I have lots of time to shop around . It has worked so far .
I agree on the shopping around . I've been driving 55 years without an accident and every once in a while my current insurance company sends me a renewal with a jacked up rate . We have a very brief discussion where I do most of the talking to remind them that if they want to lose a driver who has never made a claim ....last ticket was in 1997 in the U.S .......go right ahead . I have lots of time to shop around . It has worked so far .
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Unfortunately that tactic doesn't work with specialty insurance. They have a set rates with lots of restrictions, and it's the only type of coverage available for anything modified. I would love to go on a week long trip to the east coast, but unfortunately this is impossible with specialty insurance without breaking some of the rules.
Petebil, what restrictions are you talking about that you can't drive your car on a road trip? I take my 57 to Syracuse without issue.
You have had no issues because you've never had an incident. You didn't mention who you were insured with, but it doesn't matter because they all have the same rules. I'll PM you some facts.
