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Randy Douglas · Randy Douglas

I just arrived in Stoney Creek from Victoria B.C. I love old cars and have been involved with them for years. My current build is a 1930 Nash 3 window coupe with a ford 5.0 Auto. Here are some pis of a few other builds. Some pics as to what I stared with. -- Edited by Randy Douglas on Monday 15th of February 2...

flatblack55delivery · flatblack55delivery

The Ganaraska Ratlers had a great day today out with the club. We did our annual bowl for Big Brothers/ Sisters. We had a great time and they had to shut off the score thing because we did more fooling around than bowling. We had Fatstax, Commander Tom , The Boy , Mark, me and all our wives and kids. I can'...

Blu Impala · Blu Impala

Last week I sat in my living room looking at all the dry roads. I usually wait till April 1..... All Fools Day... Couldn't resist today, roads were clear and weather was great, besides the car had been underground and was just too dusty. I have had people write messages in the dust on the paint job........

teejay99 · teejay99

https://www.facebook.com/207893329259890/videos/929221673793715/?fref=nf

427CARL · 427CARL

Ontario scraps fee for mandatory Drive Clean emissions tests on older vehicles"Break" is intended to offset average of 4.3 cents more per litre of gasoline motorists will pay as the fight against climate change ramps up, says finance minister. The good news: Ontario is scrapping its $...

427CARL · 427CARL

Bastards...... "Given the environment we are in fiscally, it will leave a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of Canadians that MPs are voting for a 20 per cent hike in their office budgets."

shag766 · shag766

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-business-industrial/belleville/electric-powered-engine-crane-engine-hoist-cherry-picker/1143495826?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

69SS454 · 69SS454

Time to cash in the loose change jar. Normally use the proceeds each year for Daytona Bike Week but will be taking this year off. Just not budget friendly this year. So off to Varadareo, Cuba for a week. Cheap and easy. Been many times and always have a good time. So what's your guess 2.25l Vlasic pickle ja...

Marten · 77

The Fiddy ( 1950 Chevrolet long box 5 window pick up truck ) . With just useable wipers and no heat at all . The Fiddy was being driven every day still till that last cold snap . In the last while its picked up cement an lumber at home depot . transported new winter tires an wheels for the diesel grand Chero...

69SS454 · 69SS454

It has been a while and there are some new members so I thought I would start a new show and tell thread to get the site back on cars for a bit. Finished or project in progress lets see what everyone has to share for show and tell. I'll start. Wild Thing 1969 Nova SS 496ci, AFR 325cc heads, 850cfm AED carb, ful...

shag766 · shag766

i was going through and deleting some old pic's on the laptop and came across these pic's. it has been awhile since i actually went through and really looked at them and when i came across these i had to keep them. i renamed the file, a pair of old truck drivers having a grin. the guy steering in the back, the...

JPB · JPB

earlier,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

supernash · 77

would like to ask riders a few questions about iron heads in the 72 to 78 ish vintage . thanks ..77.

JPB · JPB

Not the first to say, but , HAPPY BIRTHDAY Carl !!!!!!!!!

Rustynuts · Rustynuts

I have a ax-550 and the input switch was not making proper connection for years. So I took the amp cover off and found the metal cover over the switch. I then pried the end cover up enough to spray a pile of contact cleaner inside as I moved the switch . After it was dry reassembled and voala...I now can liste...

69SS454 · 69SS454

Think someone here was asking if denting your headers for clearance = HP/TQ loss. Interesting results Enjoy

teejay99 · teejay99

I have call display , thankfully , but have noticed a lot of out of town calls the last couple of months . If I do bother to answer it's some airline pushing a vacation plan , the usual " duck cleaners " from some Easter country , some survey which could be a front for a product , robot calls etc etc...

Missing Members · Modfather

Ok so I have been lurking for a bit and reading some posts and putting in my.02 every once in a while. And I realized that there were some very active members that have not posted in a while. So I am wondering what happened to Janice, and Dave the Scotsman and anyone else that use to chime in all the time. Ki...

Danielcolburne · Danielcolburne

Hello hotrod and car builders in Ontario , my names Daniel and Im almost 15, I'm very into cars and I am learning how to weld at my house on a 180 amp mig, yesterday I bought my first car , it's a 1982 Porsche 924. I know it's not hotrod or anything but it's a good first project I think , it has every part there but...

DavyJ · DavyJ

http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/18/selling-used-cars-get-lot-tougher-new-inspection-standards/

Larry · Larry

This question might have been asked before but I'll ask it now....Does anyone know a good soda blaster in Ontario that can be trusted with sheetmetal ? I'm in the Haliburton area but there is nothing up here.I know one person that took his car to get soda-blasted and they used sand instead and warped the...

roid · roid

Anyone know anything about 1932 ford serial #s? .When you Google that it says they all started with 18 01 and went on to 18 236203. I am looking at a 3 window 32 in USA titled as 1932, serial # is B711523. thanks roid

teejay99 · teejay99

....assuming you are retired , of course . I've been retired for just over a year now ....just turned 70 . Nobody really prepares us for retirement , atleast I wasn't . Parents are usually long gone to discuss it with . The reasons for retirement vary : 1. Company Policy once you turn 65 . 2. Illness or ph...

chips · chips

Just a quick question that isn't car related. I've had a TV antenna for the last 20 years and have loved not having to pay cable bills. That being said, just recently (roughly around the start of the new year) I've been unable to get any of the "29" channels (29-1,29-2. and 29-3). Based on o...

teejay99 · teejay99

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/windsor-area-on/very-rare-white-frank-sinatra-edition/1114896455?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

Smokin Joe · Smokin Joe

http://massprivatei.blogspot.ca/2016/01/new-cars-to-record-your-iris.html

RIP Glenn Frey Eagles founding member · 69SS454

http://ktla.com/2016/01/18/eagles-founding-member-glenn-frey-dead-at-67

supernash · supernash

I was looking in my Library for some old mags I based much of the Supernash build on many moons ago. I came across a Super Stock and Drag Illustrated from August 1967. They were testing the new 1966 442Ram Air car. There's 6 pages of a Hemi Blueprint building I found interesting. It was a thing put on by Chry...

69SS454 · 69SS454

Has this courtesy died? Drove past a radar set up the other day and luckily was doing the limit. For the next mile or two I flashed oncoming traffic to let them know. I returned back down the same road an hour later and must have passed 20 cars going the other way and not one of them flashed to say there was a tr...

Rustynuts · Rustynuts

trying to buy a seat cover and the seller doesn't want to ship it and its too far to drive to get it. Dennis

teejay99 · teejay99

Here's an idea ! https://www.youtube.com/embed/2a1QISYNGHs?rel=0

South Shore · South Shore

I put a subject matter on about "the price of oil". I am able to get access to the first few replies on the site but after the first page nothing! Could someone please explain to me in detail how to access them. I have tried numerous times with no luck..............Thank you

teejay99 · teejay99

..........I've been wearing my hoodie the wrong way ! Doh ! So THAT'S IT !! -- Edited by teejay99 on Monday 28th of December 2015 04:32:07 AM

teejay99 · teejay99

South Shore · South Shore

Remember after the recession a few years back the price of a barrel of crude oil went down to about $50. Then after the recession in the next 5 years when the economy picked up slowly the price of a barrel of oil peaked out at $170 a barrel. During this time period a litre of regular conventional motor oil th...

shag766 · shag766

rationality 101 The fairest Layoff Letter ever!This letter was sent this week to a major employer here in Ontario. I changed the name of the company, Dear Employees:As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Kathleen Wynne is our Ontario Premier and that our taxes, Hyd...

Rustynuts · Rustynuts

I don't care who you are get your reindeer off my roof!

teejay99 · teejay99

teejay99 · teejay99

PonderismsCan you cry under water?How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered? Why do you have to "put your two cents in".. But it's only a "penny for your thoughts"? Where's that extra penny going to?Once you're i...

teejay99 · teejay99

.....but my dear wife is not in complete agreement when I showed her the plans , for some reason .....

Smokin Joe · Smokin Joe

I had a trapper come in as the beaver were taking down a lot of trees two you could not put your arms around and coons above my shop stinking up the place. John called me to his truck to show me what he caught something I had never seen before. We had 22 barn cats at the high point and down to four right now. He ha...

Smokin Joe · Smokin Joe

Don't Forget to Watch The Appraisers TOMORROW! Many in the hobby have been searching for quality car programming that does not involve "reality drama," wrench throwing, foul language, incorrect information and lack of believability. Thanks to the folks at Chip Taylor Commun...

Modfather · Modfather

Creative to say the least, someone sent me this link so I thought I would share > https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Dxy4n0UT82o?rel=0

Torquewar · Torquewar

http://blog.caranddriver.com/advertising-the-1970s-these-car-ads-define-a-nation-desperately-trying-to-enjoy-itself/

teejay99 · teejay99

A big city lawyer went duck hunting in rural northern Minnesota. He shot and dropped a bird, but it fell into a farmer's field. As the lawyer climbed over the fence to claim his bird, an elderly farmer drove up on his tractor and asked him what he was doing. The litigator responded, "I shot a duck...

teejay99 · teejay99

This is a bit of a different version but I think you'll like it !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qsYreBJZE

shag766 · shag766

o....I was talking with one of our customers today.....So....I was talking with one of our customers today..... ...and he said he had just recently celebrated his 70th birthday and he said his wife bought him a SUV for his birthday present. Wow! I said you scored on that!!!! There was a brief moment of...

Rustynuts · Rustynuts

I have had the upright ones and they only last a yr...then I went with a red lion submersible and today It wasn't working. so pulled it and found it was full of water. The end bearing was tight and had burned through is plastic housing.....its only about 2 yrs old. Anyone know of a good sump pump that will l...

poncho62 · poncho62

A senior citizen drove his brand new Corvette convertible out of the dealership. Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind blowing through what little gray hair he had left. "Amazing," he thought as he flew down I-94, pushing the pedal even more. Looking in his rea...

Danielcolburne · Danielcolburne

today I took off the bumpers of my 924 and sunk them in so there is just about "3cm sticking out instead of around "20cm being out there before looking huge and clunky, just cut the rods you stick it in to the body down and grinded them down to fit In double the length as before . I'm still using the...

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	My 1930 Nash (Preview) I just arrived in Stoney Creek from Victoria B.C. I love old cars and have been involved with them for years. My current build is a 1930 Nash 3 window coupe with a ford 5.0 Auto. Here are some pis of a few other builds. Some pics as to what I stared with. -- Edited by Randy Douglas on Monday 15th of February 2...	Randy Douglas	7	1610	Mar 9, 2016 by jarvis1
	Ratlers Bowling for dollars (Preview) The Ganaraska Ratlers had a great day today out with the club. We did our annual bowl for Big Brothers/ Sisters. We had a great time and they had to shut off the score thing because we did more fooling around than bowling. We had Fatstax, Commander Tom , The Boy , Mark, me and all our wives and kids. I can'...	flatblack55delivery	3	1099	Mar 7, 2016 by shag766
	Good Day for a Car Wash (Preview) Last week I sat in my living room looking at all the dry roads. I usually wait till April 1..... All Fools Day... Couldn't resist today, roads were clear and weather was great, besides the car had been underground and was just too dusty. I have had people write messages in the dust on the paint job........	Blu Impala	4	1048	Mar 5, 2016 by 427CARL
	Priceless : If you need a laugh today (Preview) https://www.facebook.com/207893329259890/videos/929221673793715/?fref=nf	teejay99	0	1318	Mar 5, 2016 by teejay99
	Ontario news on E-test (Preview) Ontario scraps fee for mandatory Drive Clean emissions tests on older vehicles"Break" is intended to offset average of 4.3 cents more per litre of gasoline motorists will pay as the fight against climate change ramps up, says finance minister. The good news: Ontario is scrapping its $...	427CARL	28	3671	Mar 5, 2016 by Petebil
	Guess who got a Raise (Preview) Bastards...... "Given the environment we are in fiscally, it will leave a bad taste in the mouth of a lot of Canadians that MPs are voting for a 20 per cent hike in their office budgets."	427CARL	10	1497	Mar 2, 2016 by taz 76regal
	electric motor hoist (Preview) http://www.kijiji.ca/v-business-industrial/belleville/electric-powered-engine-crane-engine-hoist-cherry-picker/1143495826?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true	shag766	1	1000	Mar 2, 2016 by henry
	Place Your Bets (Preview) Time to cash in the loose change jar. Normally use the proceeds each year for Daytona Bike Week but will be taking this year off. Just not budget friendly this year. So off to Varadareo, Cuba for a week. Cheap and easy. Been many times and always have a good time. So what's your guess 2.25l Vlasic pickle ja...	69SS454	15	1420	Mar 1, 2016 by poncho62
	So who,s still driving . (Preview) The Fiddy ( 1950 Chevrolet long box 5 window pick up truck ) . With just useable wipers and no heat at all . The Fiddy was being driven every day still till that last cold snap . In the last while its picked up cement an lumber at home depot . transported new winter tires an wheels for the diesel grand Chero...	77	35	2643	Feb 28, 2016 by Marten
	It's Show and Tell Time ( 1 2 3 ) (Preview) It has been a while and there are some new members so I thought I would start a new show and tell thread to get the site back on cars for a bit. Finished or project in progress lets see what everyone has to share for show and tell. I'll start. Wild Thing 1969 Nova SS 496ci, AFR 325cc heads, 850cfm AED carb, ful...	69SS454	112	8005	Feb 19, 2016 by Iwannagofast
	memory lane (Preview) i was going through and deleting some old pic's on the laptop and came across these pic's. it has been awhile since i actually went through and really looked at them and when i came across these i had to keep them. i renamed the file, a pair of old truck drivers having a grin. the guy steering in the back, the...	shag766	5	1389	Feb 16, 2016 by shag766
	Drag racing; A H R A style & CHEVY II's (Preview) earlier,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,	JPB	1	1160	Feb 15, 2016 by Whitey
	Iron Head questions (Preview) would like to ask riders a few questions about iron heads in the 72 to 78 ish vintage . thanks ..77.	77	4	1166	Feb 11, 2016 by supernash
	427Carl (Preview) Not the first to say, but , HAPPY BIRTHDAY Carl !!!!!!!!!	JPB	9	1227	Feb 10, 2016 by Modfather
	anyone here have an old yamaha amp that has an switch issue? (Preview) I have a ax-550 and the input switch was not making proper connection for years. So I took the amp cover off and found the metal cover over the switch. I then pried the end cover up enough to spray a pile of contact cleaner inside as I moved the switch . After it was dry reassembled and voala...I now can liste...	Rustynuts	0	1078	Feb 7, 2016 by Rustynuts
	Bashed Pinched Header Tubes Dyno Testing (Preview) Think someone here was asking if denting your headers for clearance = HP/TQ loss. Interesting results Enjoy	69SS454	21	1669	Feb 5, 2016 by mike
	Anyone Else Getting Annoying Phone Calls ? (Preview) I have call display , thankfully , but have noticed a lot of out of town calls the last couple of months . If I do bother to answer it's some airline pushing a vacation plan , the usual " duck cleaners " from some Easter country , some survey which could be a front for a product , robot calls etc etc...	teejay99	33	2003	Feb 1, 2016 by Beaumont67SD
	Missing Members ( 1 2 ) (Preview) Ok so I have been lurking for a bit and reading some posts and putting in my.02 every once in a while. And I realized that there were some very active members that have not posted in a while. So I am wondering what happened to Janice, and Dave the Scotsman and anyone else that use to chime in all the time. Ki...	Modfather	54	4667	Jan 31, 2016 by 427CARL
	Porsche rod (Preview) Hello hotrod and car builders in Ontario , my names Daniel and Im almost 15, I'm very into cars and I am learning how to weld at my house on a 180 amp mig, yesterday I bought my first car , it's a 1982 Porsche 924. I know it's not hotrod or anything but it's a good first project I think , it has every part there but...	Danielcolburne	46	2865	Jan 30, 2016 by GhostPost
	new rules for used car certifications (Preview) http://www.citynews.ca/2016/01/18/selling-used-cars-get-lot-tougher-new-inspection-standards/	DavyJ	38	5310	Jan 29, 2016 by 41flatty
	sandblasters (Preview) This question might have been asked before but I'll ask it now....Does anyone know a good soda blaster in Ontario that can be trusted with sheetmetal ? I'm in the Haliburton area but there is nothing up here.I know one person that took his car to get soda-blasted and they used sand instead and warped the...	Larry	5	1289	Jan 24, 2016 by gkent
	1932 Ford Serial # (Preview) Anyone know anything about 1932 ford serial #s? .When you Google that it says they all started with 18 01 and went on to 18 236203. I am looking at a 3 window 32 in USA titled as 1932, serial # is B711523. thanks roid	roid	8	1939	Jan 24, 2016 by slim
	So How is Retirement Working Out ?? (Preview) ....assuming you are retired , of course . I've been retired for just over a year now ....just turned 70 . Nobody really prepares us for retirement , atleast I wasn't . Parents are usually long gone to discuss it with . The reasons for retirement vary : 1. Company Policy once you turn 65 . 2. Illness or ph...	teejay99	34	2797	Jan 23, 2016 by MScott
	Fox 29 TV Antenna Reception Lost (Preview) Just a quick question that isn't car related. I've had a TV antenna for the last 20 years and have loved not having to pay cable bills. That being said, just recently (roughly around the start of the new year) I've been unable to get any of the "29" channels (29-1,29-2. and 29-3). Based on o...	chips	5	1360	Jan 21, 2016 by chips
	Then there's this car for sale .... (Preview) http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/windsor-area-on/very-rare-white-frank-sinatra-edition/1114896455?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true	teejay99	17	2714	Jan 21, 2016 by shag766
	And you thought you had it bad (Preview) http://massprivatei.blogspot.ca/2016/01/new-cars-to-record-your-iris.html	Smokin Joe	2	991	Jan 19, 2016 by Smokin Joe
	RIP Glenn Frey Eagles founding member (Preview) http://ktla.com/2016/01/18/eagles-founding-member-glenn-frey-dead-at-67	69SS454	5	1027	Jan 19, 2016 by studeshaker
	Old magazines (Preview) I was looking in my Library for some old mags I based much of the Supernash build on many moons ago. I came across a Super Stock and Drag Illustrated from August 1967. They were testing the new 1966 442Ram Air car. There's 6 pages of a Hemi Blueprint building I found interesting. It was a thing put on by Chry...	supernash	2	1202	Jan 17, 2016 by flatblack55delivery
	Flashing your Headlights for Speed Trap (Preview) Has this courtesy died? Drove past a radar set up the other day and luckily was doing the limit. For the next mile or two I flashed oncoming traffic to let them know. I returned back down the same road an hour later and must have passed 20 cars going the other way and not one of them flashed to say there was a tr...	69SS454	26	2605	Jan 17, 2016 by Ragtop
	any one here in the Capreol area? (Preview) trying to buy a seat cover and the seller doesn't want to ship it and its too far to drive to get it. Dennis	Rustynuts	17	1469	Jan 11, 2016 by supernash
	Got an Annoying Old Tree in your Yard ?? (Preview) Here's an idea ! https://www.youtube.com/embed/2a1QISYNGHs?rel=0	teejay99	5	1334	Jan 8, 2016 by teejay99
	Having trouble viewing all my replies (Preview) I put a subject matter on about "the price of oil". I am able to get access to the first few replies on the site but after the first page nothing! Could someone please explain to me in detail how to access them. I have tried numerous times with no luck..............Thank you	South Shore	3	982	Jan 1, 2016 by henry
	Until Now I Never Realized ....... (Preview) ..........I've been wearing my hoodie the wrong way ! Doh ! So THAT'S IT !! -- Edited by teejay99 on Monday 28th of December 2015 04:32:07 AM	teejay99	2	1477	Dec 28, 2015 by 427CARL
	13, 13 (Preview)	teejay99	15	1755	Dec 26, 2015 by teejay99
	Hosed on the current price of oil (Preview) Remember after the recession a few years back the price of a barrel of crude oil went down to about $50. Then after the recession in the next 5 years when the economy picked up slowly the price of a barrel of oil peaked out at $170 a barrel. During this time period a litre of regular conventional motor oil th...	South Shore	23	1724	Dec 26, 2015 by wuga
	i like his rationality (Preview) rationality 101 The fairest Layoff Letter ever!This letter was sent this week to a major employer here in Ontario. I changed the name of the company, Dear Employees:As the CEO of this organization, I have resigned myself to the fact that Kathleen Wynne is our Ontario Premier and that our taxes, Hyd...	shag766	5	1685	Dec 25, 2015 by henry
	grumpy old man!!!! (Preview) I don't care who you are get your reindeer off my roof!	Rustynuts	0	1104	Dec 24, 2015 by Rustynuts
	" Political Promises " (Preview)	teejay99	2	1164	Dec 22, 2015 by 51 Styline
	Ponderisms (Preview) PonderismsCan you cry under water?How important does a person have to be before they are considered assassinated instead of just murdered? Why do you have to "put your two cents in".. But it's only a "penny for your thoughts"? Where's that extra penny going to?Once you're i...	teejay99	17	2287	Dec 17, 2015 by teejay99
	Thinking of building a new house .... (Preview) .....but my dear wife is not in complete agreement when I showed her the plans , for some reason .....	teejay99	17	1618	Dec 15, 2015 by teejay99
	A supprise (Preview) I had a trapper come in as the beaver were taking down a lot of trees two you could not put your arms around and coons above my shop stinking up the place. John called me to his truck to show me what he caught something I had never seen before. We had 22 barn cats at the high point and down to four right now. He ha...	Smokin Joe	16	2200	Dec 8, 2015 by henry
	New car show on TV (Preview) Don't Forget to Watch The Appraisers TOMORROW! Many in the hobby have been searching for quality car programming that does not involve "reality drama," wrench throwing, foul language, incorrect information and lack of believability. Thanks to the folks at Chip Taylor Commun...	Smokin Joe	3	1556	Dec 5, 2015 by teejay99
	New Add From Honda (Preview) Creative to say the least, someone sent me this link so I thought I would share > https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/Dxy4n0UT82o?rel=0	Modfather	1	1094	Dec 4, 2015 by henry
	70s advertising (Preview) http://blog.caranddriver.com/advertising-the-1970s-these-car-ads-define-a-nation-desperately-trying-to-enjoy-itself/	Torquewar	0	1104	Dec 3, 2015 by Torquewar
	DUCK !!! (Preview) A big city lawyer went duck hunting in rural northern Minnesota. He shot and dropped a bird, but it fell into a farmer's field. As the lawyer climbed over the fence to claim his bird, an elderly farmer drove up on his tractor and asked him what he was doing. The litigator responded, "I shot a duck...	teejay99	2	1161	Dec 2, 2015 by 427CARL
	One of my favorite car songs from early 60's (Preview) This is a bit of a different version but I think you'll like it !! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qsYreBJZE	teejay99	2	1414	Dec 2, 2015 by shag766
	Fwd: this morning lol (Preview) o....I was talking with one of our customers today.....So....I was talking with one of our customers today..... ...and he said he had just recently celebrated his 70th birthday and he said his wife bought him a SUV for his birthday present. Wow! I said you scored on that!!!! There was a brief moment of...	shag766	1	1215	Nov 26, 2015 by teejay99
	sump pump (Preview) I have had the upright ones and they only last a yr...then I went with a red lion submersible and today It wasn't working. so pulled it and found it was full of water. The end bearing was tight and had burned through is plastic housing.....its only about 2 yrs old. Anyone know of a good sump pump that will l...	Rustynuts	21	1624	Nov 24, 2015 by DJD
	Old man and a Corvette (Preview) A senior citizen drove his brand new Corvette convertible out of the dealership. Taking off down the road, he floored it to 80 mph, enjoying the wind blowing through what little gray hair he had left. "Amazing," he thought as he flew down I-94, pushing the pedal even more. Looking in his rea...	poncho62	0	1100	Nov 22, 2015 by poncho62
	Tucking bumpers (Preview) today I took off the bumpers of my 924 and sunk them in so there is just about "3cm sticking out instead of around "20cm being out there before looking huge and clunky, just cut the rods you stick it in to the body down and grinded them down to fit In double the length as before . I'm still using the...	Danielcolburne	5	1220	Nov 17, 2015 by apachomatic
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